This thread is directed at two (three if you count forum readers) groups of people.
1. The Toolkit Developers:
Thank you for making the Toolkit - I have enjoyed and found useful many of the options that you provide. As YNAB stumbles around trying to figure out this color change fiasco (who knows what decisions will stick), perhaps the easiest option for the Toolkit would be to provide pill and font color sets that the user can choose from. Or, just completely override the colors for pill and font that YNAB has chosen.
If YNAB does, indeed, move away from using colors, please keep colors as an option in the Toolkit! I rely on colors to organize my life. Colors and spatial organization, but spatial thinking hardly exists on a screen, so that is moot. Thank you for your consideration!
If YNAB chooses to go the all text route, you will be my lifeline!
2. YNAB Official People:
Well, this color thing has been fun, right? I wonder what would have happened if you had prepared the users for the changes. People don't like surprises. Further, the Toolkit could have perhaps gotten an adjustment ready to go with your changes. As it is, I am sitting down to budget my paycheck from today, and I am not willing to give up the (now garish) juxtaposition of Toolkit functionality as it relates to the new colors. For me, I hope you fix this soon.
I had just found 3 people that expressed an interest in YNAB and was going to show them next week. Believe me when I tell you that these people care how things look, and garish won't be impressive. You have until the 21st for damage control before I share with them.
Regarding upcoming changes to the UI:
What is the reasoning behind taking away color? I rely heavily on color to organize my thought processes. I know you don't like toggles (why?), but [appropriate] color/no color toggles would be a great, straightforward toggle to begin that journey.
Now, I know you're not a huge company like Google, and providing a toggle for large print/compact views on mobile devices might be considerably more complex, as page design may have to change. However, I am not interested in having large fonts on my phone because they're annoying and everyone around me can see my information easily. I would also hate to lose the functionality of actually being able to see more data on the screen at once. That's very important to me.
If you do make these changes, the impetus for me to make my own spreadsheet that somehow syncs with my husband would become powerful. Too bad, though, because I was fairly excited about YNAB. It's been a great communication tool for us. If you continue to ignore important feature requests and make changes that are detrimental, then what reason do I have to subscribe?
All I can say is AMEN!
I don't know about normal vision users, but I have trouble differentiating between red and green. Not that I want to go away from colors, but keep them clear! I can tell the difference between stop light red and green, but the new colors are basically the same, for gods sake!Reply
I appreciate your comments and feedback as it relates to the color changes.
Reducing the color was meant to provide more contrast and reduce reliance on colors in general as part of an ongoing project our Product team is working on. We missed the mark on this release and our Product team is working hard to launch solutions that will work for everyone. We agree that customization would be ideal in this scenario as everyone has such different preferences.
We'll keep you posted as updates happen, though we will miss your 5/21 deadline and I understand that we'll miss out on your referrals because of it.Reply