To be budgeted amount is $0.00 and showing as RED

I've got a support ticket for this issue open already, but I thought I'd post here so that if / when the mystery is solved I can share the solution.

I had $80.15 that needed to be budgeted. I gave those dollars a job, and then the TBB amount changed to $0.00. It then also turned RED.  (I'm using all caps because I'm dumbfounded).  

Here's the weird part: if I move the amount from TBB to the desired category instead of just typing it in, the TBB changes to zero and turns green.  One would assume I'm entering the amount incorrectly when typing it in, but keep in mind that TBB shows zero dollars, not a negative amount.  

Bug?

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  • Sounds like a visual bug to me.

    On the other hand, maybe it's a rounding error and you are a fraction of a cent overbudgeted and the devs have  seen Office Space (or Superman III).

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      • DnA
      • IT manager, husband, father, YNAB podcast listener
      • Navy_Blue_Cup.2
      • 1 yr ago
      • 3
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      nolesrule  1,000 Internet points for the Office Space reference :-) 

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    • Khaki Storm
    • YNAB book topics online: https://support.youneedabudget.com/r/q5w48j
    • Khaki_Storm.1
    • 1 yr ago
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    Did you use the calculator to budget any amounts? Like maybe you have 10.71 left and you wanted to split it across two categories, so you typed in each category $10.71/2?

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      • DnA
      • IT manager, husband, father, YNAB podcast listener
      • Navy_Blue_Cup.2
      • 1 yr ago
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      Ben K. I did that for a different category several steps prior to moving the remaining $80.15 to a single category.  Do you think that's the possible cause?

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      • Khaki Storm
      • YNAB book topics online: https://support.youneedabudget.com/r/q5w48j
      • Khaki_Storm.1
      • 1 yr ago
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      DnA that's my guess, somewhere there's a fraction of a cent or haypenny misplaced. 

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      • Tobias
      • Toviathan
      • 1 yr ago
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      Ben K.   DnA      Accountant story! At one of my last jobs, I was responsible for updating our auto-allocation figures every quarter. We had like 120 different cost center combinations that we would need to spread some transactions across so I would figure the percentages out to like 5 decimal places. This meant a lot of keying things like 1.00073, 0.02145, etc etc. It took a while and there was no way to just import them from excel in the system we were using.

      I got to the end of one of my allocations and I got an error message from our accounting system "The current allocation does not equal 100%, current allocation equals 100%."

      I just about threw my computer across the room. I pulled all of my numbers out and did the math in excel and found there was a floating 1 out like 9 decimal places out and I couldn't see it since we only figured out to 5 places.

      So moral of the story is that floating fractions kill programs that are displaying currency.

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      • nolesrule
      • YNAB4 Evangelist
      • nolesrule
      • 1 yr ago
      • 1
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      Tobias I know this doesn't apply to what you were working on, but a currency library with built in Math methods should be able to handle appropriate rounding. I work on an ecommerce platform that has built in methods for add, subtract, multiply and divide that has rounding and formatting rules based on the individual currencies.

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      • Khaki Storm
      • YNAB book topics online: https://support.youneedabudget.com/r/q5w48j
      • Khaki_Storm.1
      • 1 yr ago
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      Tobias I like accounting stories. They really make cents to me.

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  • Is next month's TBB negative? They are experimenting with indications that funds have been double-booked, and this may be the latest (though seemingly unintuitive) attempt.

    Edit: I just read the second part, so the above is likely not it. Try refreshing the browser window (but be aware that nukes the Undo history).

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      • DnA
      • IT manager, husband, father, YNAB podcast listener
      • Navy_Blue_Cup.2
      • 1 yr ago
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      dakinemaui  Yep - not it. I did try a browser refresh to no avail, and the zero dollar amount appeared in red within the mobile app too. Now that I think about it, this happened once before earlier this year (or late last) and I never figured out why. Given that I sometimes use the built-in calculator to divide odd numbers by two, I bet this is a rounding issue that YNAB hasn't identified yet.  I'll be sure to point out the observations on this thread when support replies. 

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  • Hi DnA !

    Thank you for writing in! This does sound really strange. We'll continue working on it with you via email, and will get one of our Bug Experts to investigate further!

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  • Hi DnA , Nicole did this get fixed? I’ve had the same issue this week? 

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      • DnA
      • IT manager, husband, father, YNAB podcast listener
      • Navy_Blue_Cup.2
      • 1 yr ago
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      Cyan Hammer I had the issue multiple times, so I figured that few times I divided an odd number by two when assigning dollars had trashed the integrity of the "to be budgeted" calculation. So, I just did a fresh start (I needed to do that anyway).  I haven't seen the issue since, but I never did a follow-up with YNAB support.

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    • DnA  thanks for your reply. It’s only showing red for May - and there’s no split categories which is confusing me. I’ll take it up with YNAB and see what they say. 

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      • DnA
      • IT manager, husband, father, YNAB podcast listener
      • Navy_Blue_Cup.2
      • 1 yr ago
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      Cyan Hammer Good deal. For clarity - this wasn't an issue with a split category. What I did was assign an amount to a budget category by using the built-in calculator.  I've provided an example screenshot below. Don't ask me why I thought that dividing a prime number by two was a good idea :-) I think doing it this way took away like half a cent from the To Be Budget amount, which causes it to go red on occasion.  If you've never assigned a budget amount using the calculator, you probably have a different issue. 

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    • Hi Cyan Hammer ! That is definitely odd. We're happy to look closer and see what's going on there! If you haven't already, would you mind submitting a Bug Report? And a member of our bug squashing team will help get to the bottom of this!

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  • Hi guys - I’ve also got the same problem in the past few days. Did anyone ever find a solution?

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    • Hi ChippyAft !

      Sorry for the trouble! Are you seeing this issue in multiple browsers? Are you using the YNAB Toolkit by any chance? If you're still seeing this issue, please submit a Bug Report. That way our team can take a closer look at what's going on there! :)

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      • ChippyAft
      • Chippyaft
      • 3 wk ago
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      Faness hi - thanks for your reply. This was fixed by Jason at YNAB who was able to find a historic rounding discrepancy on one of my accounts (by looking at YNAB to 3 decimal places...)

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