
Multiple Savings Accounts
Hello,
I have one main checking account and I have 12 savings accounts that I funnel money into for different purposes. When I transfer amounts from my checking account to one of those savings, it does not go into any category and therefore when I go to spend money from those accounts, I transfer back to checking but it does not show as "to be budgeted". I assume this is because I have already given that money a job?
How can I manage this more smoothly? Have money coming in and our of these savings accounts that can included in other spending categories?
Thanks!
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Your categories tell you what the money is for. Your accounts tell you where the money is.
The simple solution is just to pare down to having one savings account, and just having it hold any money you don't need in your checking account (this is determined by your near-term upcoming transactions) rather than trying to match category balances and account balances.
These articles might help you out some....
Why Doesn't My Category Balance Match My Account Balance? - YNAB HelpThe Relationship Between Your Budget & Your Accounts | You Need A Budget
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Stuandrie said:
When I transfer amounts from my checking account to one of those savings, it does not go into any category and therefore when I go to spend money from those accounts, I transfer back to checking but it does not show as "to be budgeted". I assume this is because I have already given that money a job?Correct. All budget accounts make up your TBB. If you've correctly followed Rule 1 and your TBB is 0, then all funds (in all budget accounts) have been budgeted. Transferring between budgeted accounts only moves the funds around within your budget. You no longer need multiple savings account for different purposes when using YNAB correctly. Let your categories determine your money's purposes. The only purpose for a savings account is to get a better return on the funds that are parked there.
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I appreciate this thank you. Unfortunately, its not that simple. I do require these multiple accounts and there are numerous automatic micro-transactions that occur daily as I round up purchases and place them in these accounts. . So I need to find a way that allows me to transfer money to them from my checking, in these micro transactions and transfer back for spending.
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Stuandrie said:
I have 12 savings accounts that I funnel money into for different purposesThis practice is great when all you have are accounts, but it is comparatively clumsy when you can use categories in YNAB to define the various purposes. Compare the two approaches when you want to change the plan to use some of the New Bike savings for Christmas presents:
- Move from New Bike category to Christmas category. Done!
- Move from New Bike category to Christmas category. Log into your bank and transfer that same amount between accounts. Record the transfer in YNAB (or import, making sure it's a real transfer). Reconcile the transfer transactions... in both accounts.
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So for example I have a savings account call Car Insurance. I have automatic transfers going there from checking on a regular basis.
So right now, that money just goes uncategorized. So when I go to spend my insurance I have no category to draw from.
Are you suggesting that I create a category "Car Insurance" and manually enter these not as transfers but as income?
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I have a savings account called car insurance. I then need to create a category call car insurance with the balance in there in green. When O add money to that category, I need to transfer it to that account? And all the micro transactions that come from my checking... As they are not income, I cant see how to budget them.
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Stuandrie said:
all the micro transactions that come from my checking... As they are not income, I cant see how to budget them.They are just movements, recorded as a transfer (in the Payee field) with no category. (It's not spending, so therefore doesn't need a category.) If being in a new location changes their job in your mind, then you will need to adjust at least two categories for every transfer (reflecting the new job of those dollars).
That's why we're suggesting you don't use the account to define purpose. It's redundant with categories and therefore more work than necessary.
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Stuandrie said:
The auto transfers are a key for me being able to save money.With YNAB, budgeting money into a category is how you save. If you have $600 bill you need to pay 6 months from now (and nothing saved toward it yet), a good way to handle that is to put $100 in the category in each month leading up to it.
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Sorry, I'm a little late, but I just wanted to point out blatantly what others have alluded to here. If you have your entire TBB down to $0.00, AND you have $500 (just a random number I picked) set aside in your "Car Insurance" Account AND you don't even have a "Car Insurance" Category, then your budget right now is lying to you, because you THINK (by looking in your Account) that you have $500, but when it comes time to actually make that Car Insurance payment, what Category are you going to take it from? Hopefully you have a large "Emergency Fund" (Or other general purpose Category) that you can pull it out of. Otherwise you're going to have to scramble to find money in your budget that can be used for this expense.
So, the alternative is taking a look at your budget, adding a Category for Car Insurance, and transferring money into that category (In this case $500, but really, whatever you have saved in your Account). Do this now, before you panic yourself by not knowing where the money will come from when you actually make the payment.
Now, once you have the category (And you can set a goal for that so it will always remind you each month how much you need to put in there, in order for you to have enough by the due date) your account is redundant, because you already know, by looking at the "Available" column in your budget, how much you have saved.
Repeat the above for the other 11 accounts you have, making sure the matching categories are properly funded. Once the purpose of your money is in the category instead of the account, your 11 accounts are now redundant, and can be combined into one large bucket of savings... Or you can keep them, if it makes you feel better, but whether you keep the accounts or not, you HAVE TO have money set aside in the budget Categories, in order to pay those bills that you think you've saved up for.
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I’ve been confused by this as well. I have multiple checking and savings accounts that I put money in from our main checking account as a way to keep it physically separated. For car insurance I transfer say $100 each month from our main checking which is linked in YNAB to an outside unlinked savings. It gets paid like a bill from the “car insurance savings fund” category in YNAB. Then when the 6 month premium is due I transfer that $600 from the outside savings back into my main checking. And pay it from there. But if I categorize to “car insurance savings fund” isn’t like I’m saving more than I am?
i would love to find a way to simplify this but still find it necessary to keep the money separate. Another savings account that isn’t linked is used because it’s online and has a much higher balance and interest rate. I keep seeing people say you don’t have to do anything for transfers between accounts but you do if only one account is linked because it’s money in or out of the main linked account and will require a category designation. It’s working so far but it’s extra work. 🤪
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Navy Blue Display said:
I keep seeing people say you don’t have to do anything for transfers between accounts but you do if only one account is linked because it’s money in or out of the main linked account"Linked" just means you auto-import transactions. Transfers between two budget accounts do not use a category, because categories are for money leaving the budget (i.e., spending).
This is in contrast to a Tracking account, which is not a budget account. Transfers to/from these from/to a budget account do require a category because the money is crossing the budget boundary. Tracking accounts can be linked as well.