Expensing accrual $ monthly

I am accruing monthly for non-monthly expenses like auto ins., life ins, subscriptions etc. I see the balance available for them going up appropriately o my budget, but they don't show up as a monthly expense on my income vs expense report this way. How do I expense these amounts monthly when I haven't actually spent the money yet?

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    • Dazed
    • and a little less confused
    • dazed
    • 3 yrs ago
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    They are not technically expenses until the money leaves your budget.  You are budgeting for those expenses each month.  When you pay your semi-annual auto insurance in June, you'll then see the expense for auto insurance.  Does that make sense?

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    • nolesrule
    • Been waiting 5 years for the Stealing From the Future fix...
    • nolesrule
    • 3 yrs ago
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    To be clear, while it seems like the budget is accrual, it's actually an allocation system. You are just dividing up un-allocated income and assigning it to categories. The monthly separation is somewhat a matter of convenience.

    Transactions and transaction reporting are all cash-based.

    Now, for the income and expenses report, they will show a monthly average for a given selected time period once an expense has actually been incurred.

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  • I would be a big fan of a new report that was something like the income v expense report, but instead it shows a live view month to month of the balances in "available" in each category of my budget. This would allow you to see the amount you've been able to put month to month into a savings category, which normally doesn't show in the income v expense report because nothing has been "purchased". 

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      • Jannelle
      • jannelle_ynabsupport
      • 2 yrs ago
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      Aric That's great feedback! Would you mind submitting your idea via the Feature Request Form? From there it's collected in a database, and just about every day, our Design Team combs through and codes them all, asking questions like Where is this person in their budgeting journey? What problem are they wanting to solve? Then, in regular research cycles they analyze all this collected feedback to plan for what’s up next  in YNAB!

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  • I'll just blow away some cobwebs on this one.

    I also accrue money on a monthly basis but I have a DD from my current account (in Bank A) to my savings account in Bank B. This is a real move; however, some of the items are paid ad-hoc from Bank A. In that case, I reduce the DD to Bank B.

    For example, I have a monthly figure of £475 that is transferred to Bank B from Bank A every month. Last month I had £175 needed from the accrued savings in Bank B to pay some of the items that I save for. Rather than move the money twice I just amended the DD to £300 (£475-£175). Until this point, everything was going smoothly but I now have a reconciliation problem.

    I know that YNAB doesn't care where the money is, and with regular outgoings (mortgage, utilities, groceries etc.) neither do I. But here the money is being moved from a physical bank to another for some future requirement.

    It's not savings in the normal sense (that's actually in another bank), which why I see it as an accrual.

    Clearly, I have it set-up wrong.

    Does anyone have a model for this kind of operation?

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      • nolesrule
      • Been waiting 5 years for the Stealing From the Future fix...
      • nolesrule
      • 3 mths ago
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      Cadet Blue Sloth This is a cash flow issue. Don't do automated transfers. Instead, use scheduled transactions to project future account balances and use that to determine how much you can safely transfer.

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  • Cadet Blue Sloth said:
    but I now have a reconciliation problem

     Why? What reconciliation problem?

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